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rogerthomas84
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posted October 26, 2006 10:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for rogerthomas84     Edit/Delete Message
Ok guys! Ive just had WINDOWS appear in the recycle bin. and read that you may want to try something. Let me know at roger.thomas@welshdragonhome.com

Roger

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gremlinkurst
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posted November 03, 2004 11:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for gremlinkurst     Edit/Delete Message
There is an application "out there somewhere" which looks at a secified file and identifies the processes and applications currently using/accessing it. I just can't remember who developed and released it. It's called "In Use By," and it seems to have vanished; I can't find it using search engines.

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Josh1
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posted November 03, 2004 11:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Josh1     Edit/Delete Message
Now some process may need to reboot so it can refresh the system files and registry to reflect the changes you just made. I do not know of any software that can do that.

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posted November 03, 2004 10:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for gremlinkurst     Edit/Delete Message
No, that's not necessary. "Simply" rebooting removes the handle. What I WANT is a way to remove the handle WITHOUT rebooting, and if I cannot identify the application or process that is misbehaving and locking up the file, I can't make it let go…without rebooting. It's like using quantum physics instead of addition and subtraction. I wish to avoid restarting unless absolutely necessary.

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posted November 02, 2004 08:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Josh1     Edit/Delete Message
What you could do is go into safe mode and then rename or delete it, or whatever you would like to do. What exactly are you looking for?

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posted November 02, 2004 05:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for gremlinkurst     Edit/Delete Message
ALMOST what I wanted. I've used Process Explorer before. The thing I like about it is that it gives more information about running processes and applications than Task Manager does. Only, can it look at a text document and tell me "who" is using it when NOBODY is supposed to be using it? That's the problem I have sometimes, not being able to delete, rename, edit, or move it because "file is in use by another application or process."

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posted November 01, 2004 02:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Josh1     Edit/Delete Message
Odd, yes there is a program that can do what you want, try these http://www.sysinternals.com/ntw2k/freeware/procexp.shtml
http://www.sysinternals.com/ntw2k/utilities.shtml And you can debug with process explorer.

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posted November 01, 2004 12:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for gremlinkurst     Edit/Delete Message
ONE last little tidbit on this: I have discovered how to reproduce this error with 100% success, although I cannot determine whether or not this is the only way that this error can occur. This 'WINDOWS' In The Recycle Bin bug is created when one attempts to delete any file that is either legitimately open/in use (i.e., with full knowledge and consent of user) or in use by some other application or process transparent to the user. ALWAYS. That this happens AT ALL is an arcane mystery I have wisely decided not to plumb (one cannot know the mind of Murphy [God/Loki]); not having the knowledge and skills (and no way to acquire them), I've elected not to wrestle too much with it, having found a suitable defense. HOWEVER…something occurs to me, after all, that MIGHT allow me to solve this puzzle with satisfactory finality: Is there an application/utility on the market (freeware, shareware, or purchase) that will allow a user to identify any and all processes and applications currently using a specified file? I VAGUELY recall running across an "In Use By" product somewhere, once, but have since forgotten who released/developed it. This would be an IMMENSE help with a number of debugging solutions.

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posted October 31, 2004 02:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Josh1     Edit/Delete Message
I had that happen to me before too, on many computers, as a matter of fact. Thanks for sharing, if that happens to me again or any one else, will we have to try that, thanks.

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posted October 31, 2004 03:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for gremlinkurst     Edit/Delete Message
I WAS going to ask for help on this, but found the answer myself, and thought I'd share the problem and its solution. From time to time I empty the Recycle Bin, when I KNOW it's empty or there're just a couple of things in it. When it's empty (I look inside) the icon indicates there's trash in it, and when I try to empty the Recycle Bin so the icon appearance accurately reflects its condistion, I get a confirmations dialog about do I want to delete 'WINDOWS.' I say yes, and it says it can't read the source or something, and the empty bin still looks full. Rebooting the computer "fixes" it. Almost the same thing happens when there ARE things in the bin. I'll empty it, and the icon says there's still something in it. Annoyed, I try to empty it again, with the same results as out lined above. I discovered how to restore proper icon appearance without a reboot, but not how to keep that arcane 'WINDOWS' from happening: Put something in the Recycle Bin. Open the Recycle Bin. Select the file and delete it. Close the Recycle Bin. Voila! The icon is now correct. Evidently, the system is SOMEHOW getting the idea that I have been trying to delete the operating system using the Recycle Bin. One would have to be absolutely IGNORANT of operating systems in general to try such a thing, and I've been playing with A/N UYKs, VAX/VMSs, Cybers, and PCs for twenty years…and I've NEVER tried to get rid of an OS that way!

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