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wedor
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posted August 21, 2003 09:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wedor     Edit/Delete Message
This is likely your problem,

Since a specific port is used for the TCP data connection (1503), if the client is behind a non-UPnP NAT device, the port must be mapped to that client. This ensures communication through the least common denominator NAT device. This also means the port cannot usually be used by another client behind the NAT device; only a single client behind the same NAT device can have an AS or WB session active.

You would need to open that port on your router.

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posted August 21, 2003 01:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Josh1     Edit/Delete Message
Your welcome.

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posted August 21, 2003 01:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jonnyj     Edit/Delete Message
thanks greatly*
i sent them another request for help, but wouldn't doubt getting the same exact response from them.

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posted August 21, 2003 12:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Josh1     Edit/Delete Message
Let me see what I can find out on this, so that you don't have to pay for anything.

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jonnyj
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posted August 21, 2003 12:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jonnyj     Edit/Delete Message
well, they only gave me the option of paying them for help.

I do have a Dell, bought from Dell.com, though MSN Messenger wasn't on the computer when I bought it.

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posted August 21, 2003 12:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Josh1     Edit/Delete Message
So they told you to contact your Manufacturer? You have a Dell?

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jonnyj
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posted August 21, 2003 12:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jonnyj     Edit/Delete Message
LOL it appears that since my XP is OEM, they will not give me free support... even though my question was about MSN Messenger.

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Josh1
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posted August 16, 2003 05:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Josh1     Edit/Delete Message
Okay, well let us know what they say.

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posted August 15, 2003 07:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jonnyj     Edit/Delete Message
Hmm, well the whiteboard still doesn't work after the install, and Microsoft has asked me for some more information, and i'm waiting to hear back from then.

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posted August 12, 2003 12:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Josh1     Edit/Delete Message
I don't know about that with the cable modem, because I have never heard of that. So it could be true.

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posted August 12, 2003 07:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jonnyj     Edit/Delete Message
The file transfer on MSN messenger and Windows messenger actually did always work for me. I'll be using MSN messenger in a few days and see if whiteboard works with the new version.
It seems interesting that me and my girlfriend can use yahoo messenger's equivalent of whiteboard just fine. Someone who helped me with a different yahoo issue said that her and me both having cable modems would make it not possible to use whiteboard, but i don't recall seeing anything like that mentioned at the MSN sites.

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posted August 11, 2003 10:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Josh1     Edit/Delete Message
Well depending how bad it is, I think that it may be a configuration issue or an update issue then again it may be something easy to fix. However I do not know what is at fault at this point. I don't want to scare you, it should be easy to fix, as this problem has been asked on the helpdesk before, it is just is a lengthy fixing process. As I see it if the router is at fault, its just another thing to fix. Version 1.45.6 did fix the Windows Messenger file transfer?

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posted August 11, 2003 10:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jonnyj     Edit/Delete Message
(version 1.45.6) http://www.linksys.com/download/firmware.asp?fwid=3 is the firmware i just installed.

and "6. Fixed MSN messenger with Windows Messenger file transfer." is why i installed it. it seems like it could possibly help with whiteboard.

It is bad if the router is at fault?

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posted August 11, 2003 09:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Josh1     Edit/Delete Message
Looks like that we are getting further into to solving this. Not so good if the router is at fault. Let us know when they reply back to you. In reference to this, "I just saw that as well as the UPnP compatibility firmware, they also have one to resolve MSN messenger problems... so I downloaded that and will see if it works, and I'll post back." Is this what you are talking about? http://kb.linksys.com/cgi-bin/om_isapi.dll?clientID=170151&QuestionText=NAT&SelectName1=&advquery=%5bs%5d%5bRank%2c%2050%3a%5bSum%3a%20NAT%5d%5bMerge%3a%20%5bThesaurus%3a%20NAT%5d% 5d%5d&infobase=linksysrev.nfo&record={1BD}&softpage=IKW_ENU_JDocView

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jonnyj
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posted August 11, 2003 09:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jonnyj     Edit/Delete Message
interesting reading

so the NAT in my linksys router http://www.linksys.com/products/product.asp?grid=34&scid=29&prid=20 is likely the cause of the problems

I just saw that as well as the UPnP compatability firmware, they also have one to resolve MSN messenger problems... so i downloaded that and will see if it works, and i'll post back.


I'm still waiting for a response from msft

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posted August 11, 2003 07:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Josh1     Edit/Delete Message
Do these help? http://www.windows2000faq.com/articles/index.cfm?articleid=39743 http://www.windows2000faq.com/articles/index.cfm?articleid=14985 http://www.windows2000faq.com/articles/index.cfm?articleid=39744 http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=818043


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posted August 06, 2003 09:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Josh1     Edit/Delete Message
Your welcome, Did you contact MSN support?

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jonnyj
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posted August 06, 2003 01:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jonnyj     Edit/Delete Message
thanks for checking back

no, the only help i can find is http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/deploy/worki01.asp but the content is a little too esoteric for me to understand.

i've also tried to find help here http://www.bigblueball.com/im/msn/default.asp but haven't found answers yet

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posted August 06, 2003 11:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Josh1     Edit/Delete Message
Were you able to get this fixed?

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posted July 26, 2003 11:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Josh1     Edit/Delete Message
Jon your welcome, I hope that they are able to help you.

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jonnyj
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posted July 26, 2003 10:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jonnyj     Edit/Delete Message
thank you for your time and effort, and this for this link. I've searched a lot and it does seem to be an uncommon problem. If I can find a fix with MSFT's help, I'll post it here.

Jon

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Josh1
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posted July 26, 2003 10:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Josh1     Edit/Delete Message
I am fresh out of ideas, and I would like for you to get the fastest help that you can get. Go to http://support.msn.com/ for further help, as they specialize in Messenger, they should be able to get your problem solved. I am sorry we could not be of much help, with this problem. I think that something is interfering with messenger maybe a service, or software, although I do not know what it could be.

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posted July 26, 2003 07:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jonnyj     Edit/Delete Message
no luck still

i went to yahoo messenger and their canvas feature works, but I'd like to use MSN's since it's larger... just interesting to note that yahoo's works

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posted July 24, 2003 03:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Josh1     Edit/Delete Message
Something for sure is effecting it. I have not find anything at Microsoft support yet. Try that and let us know what happens.

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posted July 24, 2003 01:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jonnyj     Edit/Delete Message
I tried to match my logged IM whiteboard attempts with the viewer errors, and there were days where i had many failed attempts with whiteboard, and the viewer showed no errors for MSN.

I did notice loads of WebScanX errors, from my McAafee virus-scan which isn't completely compatible with xp.

i'll be trying whiteboard with the newest version of MSN, and with my McAfee disabled and see if it will work


I found 2 of these error that were the same, although they are for Windows Messenger, not MSN Messenger..

Event Type: Error
Event Source: Application Hang
Event Category: (101)
Event ID: 1002
Date: 7/17/2003
Time: 2:51:09 AM

Description:
Hanging application msmsgs.exe, version 4.7.0.2009, hang module hungapp, version 0.0.0.0, hang address 0x00000000.

For more information, see Help and Support Center at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
Data:
0000: 41 70 70 6c 69 63 61 74 Applicat
0008: 69 6f 6e 20 48 61 6e 67 ion Hang
0010: 20 20 6d 73 6d 73 67 73 msmsgs
0018: 2e 65 78 65 20 34 2e 37 .exe 4.7
0020: 2e 30 2e 32 30 30 39 20 .0.2009
0028: 69 6e 20 68 75 6e 67 61 in hunga
0030: 70 70 20 30 2e 30 2e 30 pp 0.0.0
0038: 2e 30 20 61 74 20 6f 66 .0 at of
0040: 66 73 65 74 20 30 30 30 fset 000
0048: 30 30 30 30 30 00000

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posted July 24, 2003 12:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Josh1     Edit/Delete Message
Go to control panel-performance and maintenance-administration tools. Then go to event viewer-system then on the date you tired to connect with windows messenger, look for a warning or an error. Then copy and paste the message, to do this double click the message and you will see the clipboard hit that, then in the reply box, right click, and hit. paste. Make sure you do not give the User, and the computer name, because of security measures. See like I did I copied an error and then deleted the User and Computer name. Remember look for an error or warning that is dealing with windows messenger,


Event Type: Error
Event Source: DCOM
Event Category: None
Event ID: 10010
Date: 7/23/2003
Time: 9:00:28 AM
User:
Computer:
Description:
The server {F3A614DC-ABE0-11D2-A441-00C04F795683} did not register with DCOM within the required timeout.

For more information, see Help and Support Center at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.

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posted July 23, 2003 08:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Josh1     Edit/Delete Message
Okay let us know what happens. I will contrinue to find an answer.

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posted July 23, 2003 07:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jonnyj     Edit/Delete Message
It doesn't work yet with that change.

I just upgraded to the most recent version of MSN Messenger, and I'll see if it works now.


FWIW, everytime I sign into Windows Messenger (but never with MSN Messenger), I get this error message...

"
Signing in to Communication Service failed because the service is temporarily unavailable. Please try again later.
"

JJ

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posted July 16, 2003 01:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Josh1     Edit/Delete Message
Okay let us know if that works, the upgrade if not then we will work on this until it works.

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posted July 15, 2003 11:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jonnyj     Edit/Delete Message
when we are both using MSN Messenger, she gets no error message, and I am told "there is an unknown problem"

When I switch to Windows Messenger, I am told
"a problem ocurred while you were trying to place the call - restart the program and try again

error 0x80ee000b

No media is available for the session"

and she sees
"call cannot be answered
caller is experiencing a computer problem or a network problem"

it will launch my whiteboard program but says "not in a call"


I just saw a tip to upgrade my router's firmware to allow for UPnP compatability, and upgraded. I'll see if that works tomorrow (it did resolve a problem i was having with java) and post here again..

JJ

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posted July 12, 2003 10:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Josh1     Edit/Delete Message
Do you, or your girlfriend get a NAT error?

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posted July 12, 2003 09:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jonnyj     Edit/Delete Message
no, it didn't work in 98.

When i had only 98, i also only had MSN Messenger installed (since Windows Messenger requires XP)


I am also on a cable home network, in case this is pertinent. I have a linksys modem and router, and 2 computers (mine XP and the other win2000).

I have a Zone Alarm Pro firewall, and i have all access and server accepted for MSN Messenger, Windows Messenger, RTC Application Sharing, and Windows NetMeeting

I do have Internet Connection Firewall turned off for my network


JJ

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posted July 12, 2003 04:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Josh1     Edit/Delete Message
Does Whiteboard work in 98?

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posted July 12, 2003 02:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jonnyj     Edit/Delete Message
my girlfriend and i are both using MSN Messenger 6.0. She uses whiteboard with everyone else she knows without any problems.
We cannot use application sharing either, but we can share files and IM okay.

I get the error message
"...needs latest version of Windows Messenger installed to work correctly on MSN Messenger 6.0"
I do have the lastest version on my computer.

When my new XP computer came, a technician reformatted it and added win98SE and then put XP back on (for dual boot)

JJ

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posted July 10, 2003 11:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Josh1     Edit/Delete Message
To put it simple the registry is the backbone of the Operating system. All the settings are in the registry called values. Just as the backbone in the support of humans. True the registry settings are changed when you format and reinstall the OS, the settings are erased. When you install the Operating System, the settings for the registry are new, and the default. When you start to install software and additional hardware then values are added and changed in the registry. I am not aware of any 3rd party programs that will rest the settings back to the normal default. System restore that comes with Windows XP, can restore the system back to a date you specify, thus rolling back the registry, and other system settings. Also last know good configuration; will go back to a point in time when the system last worked. It looks at the registry, and other system files, and looks at a date that worked, and when it finds it, it will boot using the configuration of that “last know good date”. You usually use the last good configuration method when your system does not boot not windows, are you are having major problems. Are you getting any error messages when you try to run whiteboard? Also whomever you are trying to run it with, are they having any problems, any error messages on their end? What version of Messenger are you running? Are you running windows messenger 4.6, or 4.7 or another version?

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posted July 10, 2003 01:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jonnyj     Edit/Delete Message
hi,

I'm not able to use whiteboard with my MSN Messenger, and someone else who had the problem said that he found it was due to his registry settings being altered after reformatting his hard drive. I had my hard drive reformatted as well, so i'm thinking this might hint at my solution.

He said that he fixed it by running some program that reset his registry settings. (he forgets the program)

Is there such a program, and is it safe to run? (I understand some of my computer, but i don't understand the registry settings)

thanks...
JJ

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